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Building a drum roaster
jerry43
I found some info on pipe burner btu output. According to this faq, a 3/4 inch pipe with 18 inches of flame puts out 10,000 btu. 12 inches of flame would be 9,000.

http://www.burner...nerfaq.pdf

1500 watts is equal to 5120 btu.
Edited by seedlings on 02/04/2010 10:19 AM
 
seedlings
Great link!

CHAD
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
Ringo
That is a great page, I used it while working on my design. I believe I have more BTU than that, I am using an adjustable presure regulator set at 5 psi. The 8" water colume is much lower presure. I drilled double the holes, 50 per side. With 1/2 spacing the flame jumped hole to hole very slowly. I think I have too much heat, but using a needle valve after the presure valve I can regulate the flame height very well. I know that putting in this needle valve after the presure valve my jet is not seeing the 5 psi. But if I raise presure a little the flame changes. I think if you played with smaller jetting you could put full presure to jet and get more BTUs. One nice think is I have room for 4 tube heaters in my roaster, so if I need more heat I can add them. If anybody wants to know I am running #56 jets now.http://www.tejass...urners.htm
http://www.wedlin...urners.htm
http://www.allied...034805eb9f
http://bayouclass.../index.htm
A few of my links.
Edited by seedlings on 02/04/2010 12:42 PM
 
Ringo
One warning on the pipe burners, I do not think they will work for an air roaster. If too much air blows past them they will blow out. You might be able to use one before the blower and pull the hot air through, but for air roaster I would use a burner tip from a welding shop like other people on this site.
 
seedlings

Quote

Ringo wrote:
One warning on the pipe burners, I do not think they will work for an air roaster. If too much air blows past them they will blow out. You might be able to use one before the blower and pull the hot air through, but for air roaster I would use a burner tip from a welding shop like other people on this site.


Right! For air flow burners, read up on these resources:

http://ronreil.ab...ign1.shtml
http://www.jossre...rsion.html

CHAD
Edited by seedlings on 02/04/2010 1:02 PM
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
Ringo
Update on my roaster, First I screwed thin sheet metal to the angle iron. On the outside of this I put 1 inch thick fiberglass duct board.
Ringo attached the following image:
roaster7.jpg

Edited by Ringo on 02/23/2010 7:58 PM
 
Ringo
Next I used thin aluminum used to wrap steam pipes. Its thin and cheep. I used steel strapping to hold it all together. The hole you see is a view port to keep an eye on the burners. Next I have to work on the front of the roaster.
Ringo attached the following image:
roaster6.jpg

Edited by Ringo on 02/23/2010 8:07 PM
 
seedlings
Yes! Yes! Yes!

Looking sharp, Ringo!

CHAD
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
jerry43
What are you using for your viewport glass and are you allowing for any thermal expansion?

I trashed a toaster oven a few months ago that I could have got glass from. Almost kept it but decided I had too much junk around as is.
 
Ringo
Got my glass from Mcmaster Carr. part number 1357T31. I work with boilers at work and use this glass to view the firebox. So it should be good, but no garantee. The glass on the side is welding hood glass, we also use this with boilers.
For thermal shock just made a loose fit, room for differential expantion.

Ringo
 
DrJimmy
One source for free glass is the really old gas grills that still had windows. Also, ovens have glass on the inside that withstands at least 600 degF for self cleaning.
JIM
 
Ringo
I am hoping that I am inspiring other builders, it has taken me a long time. I am not a welder so I am slow. On my project new pictures soon, almost ready for first test run. I found this picture online, its a Ambex YM2 or at least thats how its labled. Would have loved to have this picture before I started.
Ringo attached the following image:
144271911_52c83a1dcd_m.jpg

Edited by Ringo on 03/24/2010 12:53 PM
 
Ringo
The outside
Ringo attached the following image:
143698171_3f3e45f7e4_m.jpg
 
jerry43
Ringo,

Looking mighty good there! Post your pics sized to the limit of 500x500 pixels so we can get a better look.
 
Ringo
Here is the link to the site I found it, Its on Flicker not a very good picture. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wheregoodthingsgrow/ its page 9 or 10
Edited by Ringo on 03/25/2010 7:22 PM
 
jerry43
Thanks for the link. It is a hefty drum with some nice welding inside.
 
jerry43
I found some super nice red paint for my non-hot parts of my roaster frame. It's Valspar Oil Enamel in red gloss. The brush on can says it has a hard tile like finish. It looks wet even when dry.

I gotta try it on some piece of farm equipment and see how it holds up in the sun.
 
Ringo
Its hard to tell in the picture but it may be a thick ring welded to the end of the drum. If the drum is that thick the drum has a lot of steel.
 
DrJimmy
That ring looks to me like a stiffener - maybe mild steel that is used to maintain the roundness of the drum. This would allow the use of thinner stainless while still keeping things straight.

Another interesting item is that the mount for the shaft is female. This would allow you to put the whole drum in a lathe from the outside and machine the inside diameter rather than machining the outside of the drum. Not sure what I'm looking at on those flipper flappers. The seem to be in line with the rotation of the drum. Maybe they're cracker croakers.

I'm not a welder either (certifiable maybe) but I might differ with Jerry on the quality of the welds. If Ringo works with boilers he knows what I mean.
JIM
 
Ringo
What I think the flaps are are the return veins, used to kick the beans back to the back of drum. Looks like they left a little tab on the forward veins to weld the reverse veins too. You could put them on the forward veins outside the drum. Look a little bit light weight. I also was surprised how short the forward veins were. But I know these are great roasters. On a side note, I want to go have coffee at that shop, that guy knows his stuff I think.

Ringo
Edited by Ringo on 03/26/2010 6:06 AM
 
jerry43
Ever try welding thin stainless steel? Stainless conducts heat better than mild steel. You have distortion to deal with and the risk of burn through. Add in the the tiny space welding in the drum and it is no piece of cake.
 
DrJimmy
Yep, agree Jerry. Not the easiest. My point is if these are "mass produced" as it says in the photo album, this is not what I would have expected.
JIM
 
Ringo
Jerry, funny you said that today I am welding thin stainless today, what a pain. Welding on my trier, and the big funnel to load beans.

Ringo
 
Ringo
Did the trial roast tonight, I feel like it went good. The roast went way too fast. 1C at 6:30 I had a FC+ at 9 min with some tipping. I just have to learn to slow this down, but I feel like I have plenty of heat, plenty of air.
Edited by Ringo on 03/30/2010 8:27 PM
 
John Despres
Sounds like you built a monster that needs taming!

Congratulations!

John
Respect the bean.
John Despres
Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers.
 
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