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Coffee Second to Oil?
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JETROASTER |
Posted on 12/23/2010 8:36 AM
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I just took it for granted.....whoops. http://www.entrep...799_1.html Second largest export from developing nations. That's still pretty big!! Happy Holidays to All !! -Scott |
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SteveN |
Posted on 12/23/2010 8:59 AM
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good read... thanks for the link! |
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Unta |
Posted on 12/23/2010 12:05 PM
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The 1.24 sounded both high and low from what ive read about the commodity price for green versus the Fair trade price. Id be curious to see how the came to arrive @ 1.24 per. The interesting bit that needs to be brought to light is the impact that all this trade hullabaloo has on the lives of these farmers, and how the price paid doesnt represent the actual payment to the farmer. Fortunatly the fair trade systems attempts to address it, but i think the Sweet marias farm gate initiative really hits a home run and should be a goal of specialty coffee folks everywhere to think about the dest direct route for your dollars to get back tot he people who are actually producing this amazing product.. ;) sean Edited by Unta on 12/23/2010 12:06 PM Sean Harrington
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JETROASTER |
Posted on 12/23/2010 12:21 PM
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Yeah, Farmgate suits me better. Clearly the Democratization of coffee could have a huge impact on developing nations...... ...if it's permitted. I like the 'third-wave'. I feel like a revolutionary. "Viva La Lima!!!" -Scott |
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John Despres |
Posted on 12/23/2010 2:20 PM
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I'm a huge fan of Farm Gate as well. Fair trade is usually fair for the co-op owners and not always fair to the farmer. Tom has certainly hit it out of the park with his program and I, too, hope others follow suit. Unfortunately, there are countries that won't allow Farm Gate like Kenya and Ethiopia whose coffees are government controlled and sold. John Edited by John Despres on 12/23/2010 2:22 PM Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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Unta |
Posted on 12/24/2010 9:06 AM
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Quote John Despres wrote: Fair trade is usually fair for the co-op owners and not always fair to the farmer. John It really speaks to the coruption that is rampant in the financial pipe lines. Though the fair trade systems offers up a bigger chunk of cash, and helping these coops that get the coffee to the state run auctions is a benefit to the alternatives for these farmers. In most cases from what ive read, the benfit of a living wage is being paid, plus the infrustructure improvements (health care, water systems, schools) that the CO-OPs are building is much better then it had been in the past. Perfect not by a long shot, but better then it had been in the past, where farmers would get to market to find that the commodity market , set by wall street , just set the coffee prices @ 40 cents bellow cost... sean PS : Though in talking with Royal, this year because of the coffee prices being so high they say that there are farmers opting out of their fair trade contracts... Edited by Unta on 12/24/2010 9:11 AM Sean Harrington
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John Despres |
Posted on 12/24/2010 12:49 PM
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Fair trade contracts also hurt if a member farmer has a Cup of Excellence candidate. It's a weird deal - often farmers are charged a membership fee by the co-ops and although the fee may seem low to us, it could take the farmer a lifetime to pay back a loan of the fee amounts. It's slowly improving, though, and I'm glad for that. John Respect the bean.
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Clifford |
Posted on 12/25/2010 7:12 AM
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I buy mostly Farmer's Gate coffee unless it is a special estate
May the Force be with your cup
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