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What roaster is this?
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Dan |
Posted on 08/19/2013 7:00 PM
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1 1/2 Pounder Posts: 1662 Joined: October 24, 2005 |
This review mentions everything except the maker and model. Apparently, it is not made in the U.S. and only a few prototypes have been built. Has anyone seen it, used it, or heard anything about it? Dan http://www.home-b...26617.html 1 pound electric sample roaster, 3 pound direct-flame roaster, both handmade; modified Mazzer Mini grinder, LaSpaziale Vivaldi II automatic espresso machine. When the electricity goes out I make vacpot coffee from beans ground on my Zassenhaus hand grinder, and heat the water with a teakettle on the gas range.
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jedovaty |
Posted on 08/19/2013 7:40 PM
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1/2 Pounder Posts: 225 Joined: October 31, 2011 |
Henry mentions it here :) http://www.home-barista.com/home-roasting/cool-new-one-pound-gas-roaster-t26617-50.html Santoker! There are lots of roasters coming from China right now. |
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allenb |
Posted on 08/19/2013 7:47 PM
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Administrator Posts: 3858 Joined: February 23, 2010 |
I want one! I'll bet it's pretty expensive though as it looks to be built to last and very functional. I like the graduated air flow control bezel. Allen 1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
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boar_d_laze |
Posted on 08/19/2013 8:02 PM
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1/4 Pounder Posts: 181 Joined: May 28, 2013 |
As jedovaty said, it's a "Santoker." The manufacturer's price, fob China, is currently around $2300 USD. Dustin, who posts at H-B as dustin360, and perhaps belongs here as dustin351, expects to be the North American importer. The price isn't set yet, but is anticipated to be in the neighborhood of $2750 (fob a US port). Dustin has a lot of experience with the roaster, has had a lot of input into its development, has plenty of roasting expertise of his own, and seems like an all around good guy. Even if you could buy it for a few bucks less by arranging for importation and shipping from China yourself, his expertise would make the difference well worth it. Based on what Dustin and one other person (TomC) who has had a chance to play with it has said, it appears to be roughly in the same class as the Bela Mini 500, Yang Chia 800n, and TJ-067. Perhaps, it should be mentioned that TomC says he plans to purchase a Victory 1 -- a 1kg roaster made in Florida, and which sells for about twice the price as the Santoker. BDL Edited by boar_d_laze on 08/19/2013 8:16 PM USRC 1lb Roaster, Chemex+Kone, Espro, Various FPs, Royal Siphon Vacuum, Yama Ice Drip Tower, Bunnzilla, La Cimbali M21 Casa, Ceado E92.
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Dan |
Posted on 08/19/2013 10:24 PM
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1 1/2 Pounder Posts: 1662 Joined: October 24, 2005 |
Thanks guys, and thanks for the updates, too. It looks like a good machine. What I don't like about it is its poor ergonomics. The controls are mounted on the side all the way at the back. I took a look at the Roaster Authority website and they don't list a Victory 1. Is it in design? 1 pound electric sample roaster, 3 pound direct-flame roaster, both handmade; modified Mazzer Mini grinder, LaSpaziale Vivaldi II automatic espresso machine. When the electricity goes out I make vacpot coffee from beans ground on my Zassenhaus hand grinder, and heat the water with a teakettle on the gas range.
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boar_d_laze |
Posted on 08/19/2013 11:25 PM
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1/4 Pounder Posts: 181 Joined: May 28, 2013 |
Quote I took a look at the Roaster Authority website and they don't list a Victory 1. Is it in design? BDL USRC 1lb Roaster, Chemex+Kone, Espro, Various FPs, Royal Siphon Vacuum, Yama Ice Drip Tower, Bunnzilla, La Cimbali M21 Casa, Ceado E92.
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jedovaty |
Posted on 08/20/2013 11:56 AM
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1/2 Pounder Posts: 225 Joined: October 31, 2011 |
On ergonomics, I'm wondering if it's an east/west thing. The huky is pretty much best used sideways, as is the iMini500 and looks like this Santoker, too. Whereas, we here are more accustomed to going at the drum roaster from the front, ala San Franciscan, Diedrich, etc. Hmmm. It could also just simply be a size thing, the little ones are more prone to a sideways position. Funny, when I read Santoker, I keep picturing my brother doing his Homer Simpson "mmmmm" impression when talking about Santoku Ramen found in mitsuwa marketplaces.. |
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Dan |
Posted on 08/20/2013 12:41 PM
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1 1/2 Pounder Posts: 1662 Joined: October 24, 2005 |
That's a good point, jeovaty. There are no controls on the right side, or is that the "back?"
1 pound electric sample roaster, 3 pound direct-flame roaster, both handmade; modified Mazzer Mini grinder, LaSpaziale Vivaldi II automatic espresso machine. When the electricity goes out I make vacpot coffee from beans ground on my Zassenhaus hand grinder, and heat the water with a teakettle on the gas range.
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jedovaty |
Posted on 08/20/2013 2:01 PM
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1/2 Pounder Posts: 225 Joined: October 31, 2011 |
My western perspective puts the "front" where the trier and open-door-eject-beans are located. The other side of that is the back (on my Huky that's where the drum motor lies), and I don't apply handedness to the two sides. However, considering our choice of north is somewhat arbitrary and mostly relative, the answer might just depend on how much caffeine you've had. |
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Dan |
Posted on 08/20/2013 2:10 PM
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1 1/2 Pounder Posts: 1662 Joined: October 24, 2005 |
To confuse matters more, on commercial coffee grinders, the "back" is the side with the doser! The "front" is smooth except for the logo. In my office I have a map of the world hung "upside down" to remind me that most of what we accept as true in the world is really quite arbitrary. 1 pound electric sample roaster, 3 pound direct-flame roaster, both handmade; modified Mazzer Mini grinder, LaSpaziale Vivaldi II automatic espresso machine. When the electricity goes out I make vacpot coffee from beans ground on my Zassenhaus hand grinder, and heat the water with a teakettle on the gas range.
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farmroast |
Posted on 08/20/2013 5:16 PM
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1/2 Pounder Posts: 295 Joined: December 20, 2006 |
What's nice about this situation is the manufacture has been willing to make changes on the roaster for Dustin. I've known Dustin since he came online and finally got to have a long talk with him at SCAA Boston. He puts a lot of time into testing many coffee/roasting concepts. I can only wish I still had that amount of energy.
Ed B.
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