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Burr Grinders
Tony_C
Makes complete sense.


edit to remove quote, you quoted the post above, in your own conversation, not needed.
Edited by ginny on 12/12/2015 10:02 AM
 
CharcoalRoaster
Allen thanks for the heads up on a Solis 166 - I just picked one up off eBay for $55shipped. Looking forward to it as a replacement for my burned out Maestro.
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CharcoalRoaster
Anything quirky about setting up my grind or anything on that machine?
 
allenb
Nice! Hopefully it will be a low mileage unit and give you good service. A word of caution on older model home use grinders. They are meant for intermittent use only as the universal AC/DC motors on them can get real hot fast and if not allowed to cool down in between brews, the bearings can get hot enough to cause damage. These are not good for production runs!

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
turtle

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CharcoalRoaster wrote:
a replacement for my burned out Maestro.
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Just out of curiosity?

What is wrong with your Maestro (or is it a Maestro plus)?

I did a complete rebuild/upgrade of mine for around $20 in parts. If the motor is gone that is expensive ($40) but most of the parts are $10 +/-

I sold it years ago but other than that single rebuild/upgrade I got a good decade of daily use out of it.
Mick - "Drinking in life one cup at a time"
"I'd rather be roasting coffee"

Roaster 1: San Franciscan SF-1
Roaster 2: Hottop B-2K+
Roaster 3: 2 kilo Chinese drum
Grinders: Mazzer Major - Forte BG (x3)
Pour over: Hario - Bee House - Chemex - Kalita - Bodum
Drip: Bunn CWTF15-1 & CW15-TC (commercials)
Espresso: Pasquini Livia 90 auto
Vacuum: Cona - Bodum
Press: Frieling - Bodum Colombia
 
CharcoalRoaster
Interestingly enough I went online to check the shipment info and this Sbux grinder caught my eye.

BAD LINK, send it to me to post if you do not know how, not a problem

I know they used other manufacturers for their branded grinders and this looks to be a twin to the Solis 166! The housing and burrs are identical to those of solis/baratza.

Am I missing something here? Could've saved myself $50 with this branded one as long as the nuts and bolts are the same...
Edited by ginny on 12/15/2015 8:36 AM
 
baldheadracing
Um ... my apologies for the non-link mess in post 31. Here are the missing links (embedded in bold):
- Yang Chia "Flying Horse" (610N has combo ghost+regular burr) - select English in the top right of the page
- Chinese review of the R-220 and Nice Cut Mill Has good pics of the Fuji R-220 ghost burrs and resulting grind (The Kalita Nice Cut mill has "normal" flat burrs.)

To add, Americans have had success ordering the Fuji Royal grinders from Coffee Sakura. Coffee Sakura are also on Rakuten. Watch for extra fees (not just on buyee or rakuten, but as a general point when ordering from another country). A Fuji Royal R-440 is what Daibo used in his caf? :-), but I suspect that shipping for the 440 might be prohibitively expensive.

I have no experience buying from Japan (but I've had good experiences buying from China using AliExpress)
 
allenb

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CharcoalRoaster wrote:

Anything quirky about setting up my grind or anything on that machine?


If it's the same design as mine I can't think of anything quirky to speak of. It's a little bit of an effort to get the bottom of the case pried out far enough to release the catches and remove when accessing the internals but that's all I can think of.

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
CharcoalRoaster
Sorry for the bad link Ginny - no need to repost it or anything like that.

I attempted to repair the maestro a few times. Some successful but the last was unsuccessful. I had been working with the Baratza tech support and the bearings on the motor went bad. I had already replaced the timer/on off switch so by the time the motor crapped out I decided it was time to retire Frankengrinder lol
 
ginny
Hey Charcoal,

not a deal. it honestly did not work or I would have made it live.

stuff happens, we got you covered.

ginny

roar
 
CharcoalRoaster
Received the Solis 166 in the mail today and am pretty impressed by this little guy. Runs smooth and quiet with very little fines and/or grain variation.

Another quick question for you Allen in regards to dialing it in for pourovers in my Chemex:

I ran a couple of beans through on the middle setting (picture of a pourover) and the grind seemed a little too fine. What have you found to be best?

Thanks!
 
allenb
Set to the coarsest setting and examine the grind. If it looks coarse enough than your good to go. I've found with any non-commercial "home-use" grinders, for drip brew, go as coarse as it will allow before it starts to make irregular particles or flakes. If adjusting to maximum produces no irregular particles then you may be able to coax a coarser grind by pulling the body and resetting the register plate a couple of notches. I would suggest adjusting the register plate to allow you to produce irregular particles on the coarsest setting so you're confident you're getting the coarsest clean grind possible.

"What have you found to be best"? For my Chemex and pretty much any pourover, grinding through a home-use grinder, I like to go as coarse as they'll go before the flakes start appearing.

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
Tony_C

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Tony_C wrote:

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JackH wrote:

Which model did you get Tony?


Baratza Encore from Batch Coffee in Plymouth, Mass, and arrived within a day. Excellent service, and was in touch with them from start to delivery. And I will also be picking up an Esatto. Yup, I know may thing it's expensive, but I want it. Of course it was a Christmas gift to myself, so I have to wait to use it.


Okay, after a couple days of use I'm liking this grinder a lot. Such a consistent grind, easily adjustable, and really easy to use. Right now I'm using setting 22 for Chemex and it's been working like a champ for me. Paired with the Bonavita electric kettle, (1 Liter model) it is a winning combo for me.
 
JackH
Tony, I use that same combo except I use a clever coffee dripper. The kettle gets the temperature just right.
---Jack

KKTO Roaster.
 
turtle
One simple mod I did that I found very useful was to take some of the wife's nail polish (pink) and marked the hopper at the protrusion that tells you what # the grinder is set at.

this allows me to see the setting from across the room.

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/food/coffee/grinders/baratza/markedBeanHopper_zps4902d209.jpg
Edited by JackH on 12/28/2015 3:55 AM
Mick - "Drinking in life one cup at a time"
"I'd rather be roasting coffee"

Roaster 1: San Franciscan SF-1
Roaster 2: Hottop B-2K+
Roaster 3: 2 kilo Chinese drum
Grinders: Mazzer Major - Forte BG (x3)
Pour over: Hario - Bee House - Chemex - Kalita - Bodum
Drip: Bunn CWTF15-1 & CW15-TC (commercials)
Espresso: Pasquini Livia 90 auto
Vacuum: Cona - Bodum
Press: Frieling - Bodum Colombia
 
LongLeafSoaps

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turtle wrote:


Every Thursday Baratza lists out their refurbs. These are returns that Baratza gores though, repairs/replaces parts as needed and re-adjusts. their refurbs come with the same warranty as a new unit (1 year). I've bought nothing but refurbs over the past 10 years and been satisfied with them. Encore refurb is $99

http://www.baratz...egory=RFRB



Thank you for the awesome link...my Encore will be delivered on Wednesday! I have high hopes for the anti-static grinds container...well....and the ability to grind right into my portafilter!
Carpe Diem With Coffee
 
turtle

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LongLeafSoaps wrote:
Thank you for the awesome link...my Encore will be delivered on Wednesday! I have high hopes for the anti-static grinds container...well....and the ability to grind right into my portafilter!


There is no such thing as "anti static" grounds hopper.

Even both of my Forte BG grinders have "static cling"

i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u414/turtle-web/food/coffee/grinders/forte-x2_zpstj0vshpw.jpg
Mick - "Drinking in life one cup at a time"
"I'd rather be roasting coffee"

Roaster 1: San Franciscan SF-1
Roaster 2: Hottop B-2K+
Roaster 3: 2 kilo Chinese drum
Grinders: Mazzer Major - Forte BG (x3)
Pour over: Hario - Bee House - Chemex - Kalita - Bodum
Drip: Bunn CWTF15-1 & CW15-TC (commercials)
Espresso: Pasquini Livia 90 auto
Vacuum: Cona - Bodum
Press: Frieling - Bodum Colombia
 
snwcmpr

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turtle wrote:

There is no such thing as "anti static" grounds hopper.


You may be correct, but, Baratza says differently.
http://www.baratz...u-revised/

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The 100+ gram capacity bin and the discharge chute are made of an anti-static plastic, which helps battle the inevitable static better than a coating.


And I remember 5-7 years ago, when I got a Virtuoso, I got an Anti-Static bin from them, I special ordered. It did not come with the one I had, at the time.

Ken in NC
--------------
Backwoods Roaster
"I wish I could taste as well as I wish I could roast."

As Abraham Lincoln said "Do not trust everything you read on the internet".
 
Tony_C
My little Black & Decker flat burr grinder had lots of static after the grind, and I always had to scrap the hopper out to get the rest of the grounds out. But I attributed that to it not being able to grind as course as I wanted for my Chemex. It was always too fine. But I've been using setting 22 on the Encore and it's been a clean dump of the hopper every time.

Just my personal observation. ThumbsUp
 
jkoll42
I was lucky enough to find a NIB Bunn LPG-2E on CL years back for next to nothing from a cafe going out of business. The grind consistency is great and it's a really solid machine.
-Jon
Honey badger 1k, Bunn LPG-2E, Technivorm, Cimbali Max Hybrid, Vibiemme Double Domo V3
 
allenb

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Tony_C wrote:

My little Black & Decker flat burr grinder had lots of static after the grind, and I always had to scrap the hopper out to get the rest of the grounds out. But I attributed that to it not being able to grind as course as I wanted for my Chemex. It was always too fine. But I've been using setting 22 on the Encore and it's been a clean dump of the hopper every time.

Just my personal observation. ThumbsUp


That's great to hear Tony! Nothing drives me more bonkers than a grinder that gives you the Tesla hair raising static charge and subsequent grounds scatter all over the kitchen. I had to return 2 or 3 grinders years ago because of this problem. Baratza, to my knowledge, is one of the few, if not the only brand of home-use grinders that typically pass the static charge test from the reports I've gotten.

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
turtle
The only thing that sticks in mine is chaff. The ground beans fall right out
Mick - "Drinking in life one cup at a time"
"I'd rather be roasting coffee"

Roaster 1: San Franciscan SF-1
Roaster 2: Hottop B-2K+
Roaster 3: 2 kilo Chinese drum
Grinders: Mazzer Major - Forte BG (x3)
Pour over: Hario - Bee House - Chemex - Kalita - Bodum
Drip: Bunn CWTF15-1 & CW15-TC (commercials)
Espresso: Pasquini Livia 90 auto
Vacuum: Cona - Bodum
Press: Frieling - Bodum Colombia
 
snwcmpr
I, too, get chaff sticking in the Preciso. I have not had that with any other Baratza. A minor issue, I do not do anything about it, but tap it down after the hopper is out.
But, no static, as I received the grinder from them.

Ken in NC
--------------
Backwoods Roaster
"I wish I could taste as well as I wish I could roast."

As Abraham Lincoln said "Do not trust everything you read on the internet".
 
turtle
I've bought all of my grinders directly from Baratza.

All of them have had chaff sticking issues. It is no big, I just use one of my grinder brushes and brush the grounds hopper out into the sink.
Mick - "Drinking in life one cup at a time"
"I'd rather be roasting coffee"

Roaster 1: San Franciscan SF-1
Roaster 2: Hottop B-2K+
Roaster 3: 2 kilo Chinese drum
Grinders: Mazzer Major - Forte BG (x3)
Pour over: Hario - Bee House - Chemex - Kalita - Bodum
Drip: Bunn CWTF15-1 & CW15-TC (commercials)
Espresso: Pasquini Livia 90 auto
Vacuum: Cona - Bodum
Press: Frieling - Bodum Colombia
 
LongLeafSoaps
Picked this up off ebay recently (the Preciso, not the Fresh Roast)...needs a few parts, but really awesome shape...pretty dirty, but I was expecting that for the price and it included the knob!!! ;-)

Ironically, this grinder was refurbished by Pierce Jens. I gotta love that, lol! =)

Added: I am curious as to why the Baratza discussion posts here in this thread have all disappeared?
LongLeafSoaps attached the following image:
preciso-242k.jpg

Edited by LongLeafSoaps on 02/05/2016 12:49 PM
Carpe Diem With Coffee
 
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