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| JETROASTER |
Posted on 09/25/2010 2:02 PM
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Congrats John, I'll be checking it out! Nice packing on the beans. Did they rest before getting sealed, or right from the roaster? -Scott |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/25/2010 2:14 PM
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Quote freshbeans wrote: Congrats John, I'll be checking it out! Nice packing on the beans. Did they rest before getting sealed, or right from the roaster? -Scott Ten minutes out of the roaster and into the vac-seal bag and half hour later in the mail... I was running out of time. Did the bag puff up much? John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| JETROASTER |
Posted on 09/25/2010 2:21 PM
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Not at all! I'll check in the AM to see if they start degassing. They look nice!! -Scott |
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/25/2010 3:54 PM
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didn't puff up at all.. strange about these..none of my sealed containers puffed up either... sean Sean Harrington
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/25/2010 4:21 PM
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Yeah, looking at my sealed pack as well... Still as tight as a drum. Odd. John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| rama |
Posted on 09/25/2010 4:51 PM
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Break a leg at your grand opening today, John! I just did the taste-off, finally getting to properly use the cupping spoon I was gifted a while ago. It started out harder than I anticipated, but things became clearer/reproducible as the cups cooled. Looking forward to sharing the results when everyone else finishes. |
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| ginny |
Posted on 09/25/2010 5:33 PM
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John: how can we get a copy of the mag? ginny |
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| ginny |
Posted on 09/25/2010 5:36 PM
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Hi all: got John's today. Opened all and have put each sample into a 1/2 pint mason jar to let them breathe for a day at minimum. I must say there are two samples that smell like I would want my bean to smell like!! Scott and John's sample have a blueberry back someplace. YUMMY... ginny I plan to smaple all tomorrow. |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/25/2010 8:50 PM
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Quote ginny wrote: John: how can we get a copy of the mag? ginny Once December rolls around and if I remember, or you do, I'll send a copy to you. You should have a copy, being an owner of one of my sculptures. John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/25/2010 8:55 PM
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Randy, Thanks for the cupping form. It will save me a bunch of time finding what was discussed and gets us all on the same page. Nicely done! John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| randytsuch |
Posted on 09/26/2010 12:34 AM
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Quote John Despres wrote: Randy, Thanks for the cupping form. It will save me a bunch of time finding what was discussed and gets us all on the same page. Nicely done! John Glad it helped. So, I have 8 numbered bags ready for cupping tomorrow. I had my daughter number the bags, and name tags, then remove the tags, so I don't know which is which. Randy |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/26/2010 7:18 AM
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Printing cupping forms now. Numbering, labeling an slurping shortly.  John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/26/2010 7:36 AM
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Cupping done.. One clear winner for me..A lot of great coffee.it really came down to nuance..I went through the form and established the highest ranking coffees ..put all the coffees back in line out of order and re-ranked them just according to slurp no numbers. The coffee was cool and really showed the differences. with the second comparison I came up with the same order.. Thanks everyone, awesome project i cant wait to see some of the profiles used..Whens the next one?!?!?! UR Buddy, Sean Edited by Unta on 09/26/2010 7:36 AM Sean Harrington
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/26/2010 7:40 AM
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The next one is when you or another member start it up. Go for it! John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/26/2010 8:15 AM
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Hey, Sean, I think you can post results once you have them. Since I think we're all cupping blind, it shouldn't matter. My water's boiling Gotta cup! John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| ginny |
Posted on 09/26/2010 9:06 AM
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I am cupping a bit later today; a friend has my small grinder and putting these samples in my mazzer mini is dumber then dumb!! I am noticing a huge difference in smell from yesterday, since putting the samples into 1/2 pint mason jars they have really been blossoming. Cad's is another that is getting a berry scent. Scott sent such a nice big amount I used his a cafe crema this am, actually 3 cafe cremas and I will go have another smooth and creamy yummy, yummy. From smell alone I have two clear winners but until I cup, surprise you all later. ginny  I have only cupped twice before, really cupped!! |
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| John Despres |
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:01 AM
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Aw, c'mon, Ginny. I used my Mazzer to grind. No sweat, actually since I don't use the hopper. But if you don't have the stainless canning funnel like me, I can see the difficulty. Tomorrow I'm making a blend of all the left over beans. Should be GREAT! My results will post this evening as I'm off to see more of the world's largest Art prize competition, ArtPrize. $250,000.00 is the top prize. 1713 artists entered. http://www.artpri... I'm entered and in the top 1713! John Respect the bean.
John Despres Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers. |
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:18 AM
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I took the flavor score as a initial flavor and an assessment after a bit of cooling, two independant scores.. Sean Edited by Unta on 09/26/2010 11:21 AM Sean Harrington
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| randytsuch |
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:36 AM
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I am sorry about the mistake in the form, the 2nd flavor was supposed to be acidity, so that obviously will skew the results. I used it as acidity, but I see Rama just did flavor twice. I finished my cupping as well, mine was blind, and I scored myself high too, and since I really had no idea who was who, I don't mind. Not to be modest, but I am somewhat surprised that I am doing this well so far, I think I have a good profile for Ethiopians, which is what I used, basically the same profile as list time's comparison, but I just made a major change in my roaster, and wasn't getting consistent results with this bean. As for culling, I think I only culled a few beans. I think they were obviously burnt, but don't really remember. I was kind of lazy this time, and basically just sent out what I roasted. I need to tally my results, and will post the results shortly. Oh, and I also don't like darker roasts as a rule, and my results are skewed that way. I think the darker roasts tasted "burnt", especially as they cooled, and with 8 cups to judge, the major judging was done with somewhat cool cups of coffee. Randy |
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:51 AM
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I personally think that cool cups are more telling..if you get a chance everyone should post their profiles to the Ethiopian profile thread..I would enjoy running them, I'm sure others would be interested also. Regards, sean Sean Harrington
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/26/2010 11:51 AM
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I personally think that cool cups are more telling..if you get a chance everyone should post their profiles to the Ethiopian profile thread..I would enjoy running them, I'm sure others would be interested also. Regards, sean Sean Harrington
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| ginny |
Posted on 09/26/2010 12:10 PM
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John: I am going to use my mini and simply brush it out well after each! Love my mini!! Going to grind un NOW!! Also looking at this thread and they way the results are going to come in I think the nest time we do this superfuntastic cupping (maybe monthly) I/we will setup a separate thread for results only. So you/anyone can go in and see each cuppers results without looking at other comments? thoughts please? ginny  |
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| ginny |
Posted on 09/26/2010 12:50 PM
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all atop, please use other thread for results, only results please no comments, thanks. ginny |
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| JETROASTER |
Posted on 09/26/2010 6:57 PM
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Hello All,First the comments and confessions, then I post the results. OK, that was a blast!! The confession; I have never cupped that way...ever. ...I'm over 30,000 lbs thus far. I'm still a bit freaked about my lack of smell, and it had me pretty worried at first. On arrival, Allens had the most fragrance. Out of the grinder, Allen, Chad, Randy won. My apologies to Sean. I assumed the pouch to be a roasted sample of the Sidamo. Before I could pull it back out of the Miele, someone hit the button. I drank it...I liked it. On aroma; I really had trouble making distinctions....other than mine,....very distiguishable. I started feeling better when the slurping started. I finally started to pick up the nuance. At that point, I left mine alone. Not a nuance roast. A few that caught my attention; Ginny; I picked up a little cabernet, beautifully bright. Rama; Beautiful acidity and fruit/floral Randy; Wonderful overall balance. Ok, enough bla-bla, it was a pleasure that I will certainly do again, anytime. ...I'm postin' scores. Flavor #2 is my acidity. Aftertaste, I had to give a 5 across the board, my buds just couldn't do it. -Scott |
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| Unta |
Posted on 09/26/2010 6:58 PM
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CHAD.. mind blowing notes.. thanks man.. im going to use alot of the info here, hope to be able to smell some of those aromas and taste some of those flavors when i cup again tomorrow. Thanks for all that work..I dont know how you write all that down so quickly.:Clap: Cheers Friend! Sean Sean Harrington
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