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Aug/Sept Roast Comparison
seedlings
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Posted on 08/18/2010 7:29 AM
Scott
CHAD
Rube 'Sean' Goldberg
Ginny

Ginny:
-get the coffee
-roast the coffee to find out how it tastes
-roast your 'best roast' for this bean
-ship 10g to each of the other participants, keeping some for yourself
-receive samples from the other participants
-on a preset day, cup all samples and post notes/scores

Prepare each cupping with 7g ground coffee to 5 fl oz near boiling water. We haven't officially settled on a cupping scoresheet.

Good times!

CHAD

Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
John Despres
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Posted on 08/18/2010 11:25 AM
I'm in!

John
Respect the bean.
John Despres
Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers.
 
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randytsuch
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Posted on 08/21/2010 12:28 PM
I think the final list of participants is
Randy
Chad - Seedlings
Scott - freshbeans
allenb
John
Ginny
Sean
Rama

So, we have 8 people.
I'm on vacation this week, but I'm sure the coffee is waiting for me at home.

I would still propose mid to late sept to send the beans to each other.
Does anyone have any dates that they can't support, or that they would prefer?
How does sending the beans on the sept 20/21, and cupping on the 25 and 26th sound?

For the form, I like the one Chad linked to before
http://www.coffee...ngform.htm

But we would only fill in the bottom section
Fragrance
Aroma
Flavor
Acidity
Body
Aftertaste

But I guess I'm not sure what the difference is between fragrance and aroma? Dry versus wet?

Randy
 
ginny
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Posted on 08/21/2010 12:55 PM
I am in, just need addresses.
g:P
 
randytsuch
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Posted on 08/21/2010 1:27 PM

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ginny wrote:
I am in, just need addresses.
g:P


If everyone sends me a PM with their mailing and email address, I will compile the list, and email it out to everyone.

Randy
 
Unta
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Posted on 08/21/2010 7:57 PM
Sean Harrington
547 royalston road
Fitzwilliam NH 03447...
Sean Harrington
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allenb
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Posted on 08/27/2010 6:21 PM

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seedlings wrote:
7 grams coffee per 5 ounces near boiling water.

CHAD


Chad,

I cupped a couple of my Harrar roasts today and used the 7 grams to 5oz water ratio but it comes out a little weak making it difficult to discern flavors.

While working for a roastery a few years ago we always used two tablespoons to a chaffing bowl (around 5 oz water) which typically came out to around 8 to 9 grams coffee depending on grind.

One site (Coffee research) recommends 55 grams coffee per liter which comes out to 8.13 grams coffee per 5oz water (give or take).

Not to quibble over small details but wanted to make sure we didn't end up with poor cupping scores due to being too weak.

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
seedlings
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Posted on 08/28/2010 10:15 AM
It doesn't matter at all to me what the ratio is. I've just copied and pasted what 'they,' since I don't actually know.

8~9g Sounds good! Unfortunately my scale is only accurate to whole grams, not tenths.

CHAD
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
allenb
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Posted on 08/28/2010 11:31 AM
I did some more experimentation and with my local water supply 9 grams is just right. Of course, I like stout coffee anyway.ThumbsUp
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
John Despres
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Posted on 08/28/2010 12:00 PM

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seedlings wrote:
It doesn't matter at all to me what the ratio is. I've just copied and pasted what 'they,' since I don't actually know.

8~9g Sounds good! Unfortunately my scale is only accurate to whole grams, not tenths.

CHAD


Sorry...:|
Respect the bean.
John Despres
Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers.
 
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ginny
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Posted on 08/28/2010 12:32 PM
Grin
Edited by ginny on 08/28/2010 8:37 PM
 
seedlings
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Posted on 08/28/2010 10:08 PM
Aw, John, you're loved! My scale is perfect - I'm not complaining at all, just making note...

***off topic***
Once upon a time I was whining about how much a cup of green coffee weighs. Well, someone (John) got sick of hearing me ask others to weigh volumes of coffee for me (since I didn't have a scale). Then, a few days later, a scale showed up at my door, and shut me up! Thank you, John! Great fellow, that guy. :Clap:
***end off topic***

CHAD
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
randytsuch
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Posted on 09/06/2010 11:03 AM
I just sent an email to all participants, with everyone's address.

Please let me know if you did not get the email, or if there is a problem with your information.

Two weeks left until we mail.

An usual (like last time), I have procrastinated, and just did my first couple roasts yesterday. One had a faster ramp, and I think that one smells better right now. I plan to cup them tomorrow, and then experiment some more.

Randy
 
ginny
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Posted on 09/06/2010 11:33 AM
Randy,

thanks, got it.

I have done several small roasts. For me a City ++ seems the right place for this
(for me.)

Roasting some this afternoon to a lighter then darker roast so we will see.

Heck my tastes buds could be a total bomb!!

ginnyShock
 
seedlings
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Posted on 09/13/2010 9:29 AM
**Reminder**

Ship freshly roasted coffee September 20th or 21st.
Cup coffee on 25th or 26th.

CHAD
Roaster: CoffeeAir II 2# DIY air roaster
Grinder: Vintage Grindmaster 500
Brewers: Vintage Cory DCU DCL, Aeropress, Press, Osaka Titanium pourover
 
allenb
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Posted on 09/13/2010 7:52 PM
Can someone with first hand knowledge of problems with the last swap (destroyed coffee) go over one more time some of the things to avoid in packaging so the postal service doesn't end up covering their truck floor with our fine Harrar?Shock

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
randytsuch
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Posted on 09/15/2010 5:13 PM
Some of us tried to save money, and ship the beans in a normal envelope, with a couple of stamps.

They fed the envelopes through automatic mail sorters, and some beans were crushed.

A larger envelope, with a little padding would probably fix this problem, but probably with a higher postage cost.

Randy
 
John Despres
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Posted on 09/15/2010 6:25 PM
Yeah, most arrived pre-ground, but not very well. I suggest a grinder, not the US Postal Service. :(

John
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allenb
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Posted on 09/15/2010 7:56 PM
With a little training I'll bet they could get the grind as we like by figuring out how many passes to give it. Four passes for medium, 12 for espresso.

I'm using the padded 4x7 mailers with coffee in a freezer ziplock.

Does anyone think this might be survivable?

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
JETROASTER
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Posted on 09/17/2010 4:20 PM

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allenb wrote:


I'm using the padded 4x7 mailers with coffee in a freezer ziplock.

Does anyone think this might be survivable?

Allen


That should work. I think the padded envelope bypasses the postal grinder system.
Is Monday ship day? -Scott
 
ginny
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Posted on 09/17/2010 5:13 PM
Hey guys:

the padded envelope is actually a package for USPS.

you can use a large envelope that is thick in one spot and it does not go through the
machine. put a foam peanut on the envelope, makes it a package but cheap.

shipping marbles has given me a new respect for those trying to save money on shipping.

have a great weekend...

love ya all

ginny

and thanks for the BD wishes.Shock
 
allenb
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Posted on 09/17/2010 5:18 PM
I've already bought the padded mailers so I'll probably go ahead and use them if it's not a huge increase over an envelope with peanut.
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
allenb
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Posted on 09/17/2010 5:19 PM

Quote

freshbeans wrote:

Quote

allenb wrote:


I'm using the padded 4x7 mailers with coffee in a freezer ziplock.

Does anyone think this might be survivable?

Allen


That should work. I think the padded envelope bypasses the postal grinder system.
Is Monday ship day? -Scott


I was planning on shipping Monday or Tuesday.

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
Unta
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Posted on 09/17/2010 7:45 PM
The USPS Machines are changing, the new robots are actually sorting flats also, not everywhere in the country yet, but I was working in two o the major sorting facilities in the northeast that were installing them..... pretty soon we're going to have to start the Carrier pigeon training thread..
sean
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allenb
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Posted on 09/17/2010 9:35 PM

Quote

Unta wrote:
The USPS Machines are changing, the new robots are actually sorting flats also, not everywhere in the country yet, but I was working in two o the major sorting facilities in the northeast that were installing them..... pretty soon we're going to have to start the Carrier pigeon training thread..
sean


If my USPS has the new robots and is sorting flats does that mean that a bubble padded mailer will get the steam roller?

Allen
1/2 lb and 1 lb drum, Siemens Sirocco fluidbed, presspot, chemex, cajun biggin brewer from the backwoods of Louisiana
 
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