LE: actually, after watching a clip where coffee is deep fried using oil in a friteuse... nothing is impossible...

allenb wrote:

Interesting roasters. I like the UN agenda 30 technocratic era friendly features, no evil fossil fuels and supposedly scrubs most of that pesky CO2! Totally "sustainable".

All joking aside, its interesting how companies sales departments tout their low carbon footprint appliances by going electric but when you do the real deep dive, most electric power plants are burning coal or natural gas with more undesirable exhaust emissions than if we ran our heating and cooking equipment and automobiles on natural gas, propane and petrol.

But, with the fast approaching full adoption of agenda 30 climate/environmental rules and regulations, gas appliances will be forced out and fully electric will be the only options for us.

ACEMBL wrote:

I was only reading the other day that the wonderful salt flats in Bolivia are going to be mined for their Lithium by the Chinese. There’ll be widespread exploitation of the indigenous population, environmental poisoning and corruption. Why can’t people ride bicycles to the café to get their skinny soya lattes? Jajaja

The big coffee players are moving their polluting old equipment to countries of origin where they’re still below their carbon quota. I doesn’t solve anything just helps with the greenwashing. And I bet they’re not paying the same labour rates either.

ACEMBL wrote:

Interesting PR stunt. I’m sure he had a nice time. I hope he planted lots of trees to CO2 offset his flights from the UK and back

The Bellwether Mk2 is a nice looking bit of kit, but using 4.5kw to warm up means that you’ve got to do a fair number of back-to-back roasts for it to be worthwhile. 0.3 kw per kg per roast (presumably light roast with low altitude beans 3kg load) isn’t bad, although again, presumably that’s just the roast cycle not cooling too.